Posts by Darth Fader The Sequel

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Jehovah hates violence and sex.

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

i've heard psalm 11 and 1 thessolonians 4 crammed down the throat so many times it's not funny.. if i was still a beliver (i'm not):.

jehovah hates violence:.

king and chronicles has numerous sex scenes.

Darth Fader The Sequel

I have a young child under the age of 10. Over the last few years I was trying to do what I *was told* and teach her stories from the Bible. I attempted to use the JW Bible Story Book. What I found myself doing is scanning through all the different chapters and only finding a handful that I felt was appropriate subject matter for my child. Almost every single story in the book contained violence or other horrific things going on that my very lovely and innocent child has no need to know. Not to mention that the OVERWHELMING GUILT AND FEAR being heaped on in every chapter as the "moral of the story". NO THANKS!!! I'll teach my child the things they need to know about Jehovah, Jesus and our real faith with my own filter on it instead of the highly distasteful BORG spin on everything.

I have said many times over the years to any JW that would listen........ If a movie was made about the Bible and the actual scenes were shown as they are described in the bible (as the OP listed out so beautifully), the movie would be rated XX and would not be able to be shown in any movie theater in this country.

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JW Disaster Relief - One of their biggest moneymakers?

by ithinkisee in

.and i just thought they were so on top of disaster relief around the world because they cared.

but when i heard this a lightbulb went off in my head:.

we just had our co visit, and our co is the guy that was the head of hurricane relief in punta gorda, florida.

Darth Fader The Sequel

Thanks.

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WTBT$ and natural disasters- do they get paid to do the repairs?

by Darth Fader The Sequel in

when there is a natural disaster in the us, we always hear about the wtbt$ rushing in and doing all sorts of repair work for the local jw's and even for "worldly" neighbors.

a zillion examples of this in the katrina hurricane aftermath, various major floods around the country, tornadoes, fires, etc.

on the surface, this sort of charitable assistance appears to me to be one of the few truly loving and charitable things the wtbt$ ever gets involved with, and certainly all the volunteer jw's who work so hard doing this work deserve credit for their efforts.

Darth Fader The Sequel

OK, thanks. I will search that and see if I find them.

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WTBT$ and natural disasters- do they get paid to do the repairs?

by Darth Fader The Sequel in

when there is a natural disaster in the us, we always hear about the wtbt$ rushing in and doing all sorts of repair work for the local jw's and even for "worldly" neighbors.

a zillion examples of this in the katrina hurricane aftermath, various major floods around the country, tornadoes, fires, etc.

on the surface, this sort of charitable assistance appears to me to be one of the few truly loving and charitable things the wtbt$ ever gets involved with, and certainly all the volunteer jw's who work so hard doing this work deserve credit for their efforts.

Darth Fader The Sequel

When there is a natural disaster in the US, we always hear about the WTBT$ rushing in and doing all sorts of repair work for the local JW's and even for "worldly" neighbors. A zillion examples of this in the Katrina Hurricane aftermath, various major floods around the country, tornadoes, fires, etc.

On the surface, this sort of charitable assistance appears to me to be one of the few truly loving and charitable things the WTBT$ ever gets involved with, and certainly all the volunteer JW's who work so hard doing this work deserve credit for their efforts.

BUT!!!!! I am suspicious.

My question (to anyone who may have first hand knowledge of how this all works) is this: Does the WTBT$ make all these repairs on the local JW's homes *on the condition* that they get compensated by the JW's homeowner's insurance or whatever FEMA funds become available to get these people brought back to whole? IF that is the case, are the "worldly" neighbors (the ones that have their stories told a million times in assembly and convention parts and yearbooks for decades after) who also get repairs done by the JW volunteers under the direction of the WTBT$ expected and required to agree to the same compensation agreement?

I ask this question because it has been rumored and insinuated to me over the years but I have no proof or first hand knowledge accounts of it.

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How does WTBT$ get away with not filing a public financial statement?

by Darth Fader The Sequel in

i have often wondered how the wt gets away with this.

every other "non-profit" or charitable group i know of that takes in donations, has a board, etc must publicly show how they spent their money, how many donations have been given, their assets, etc.

even the individual congregations read the accounts each month and post them on the bulletin board.

Darth Fader The Sequel

Yep, same bunch of clowns. I was naive to even ask. :-(

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How does WTBT$ get away with not filing a public financial statement?

by Darth Fader The Sequel in

i have often wondered how the wt gets away with this.

every other "non-profit" or charitable group i know of that takes in donations, has a board, etc must publicly show how they spent their money, how many donations have been given, their assets, etc.

even the individual congregations read the accounts each month and post them on the bulletin board.

Darth Fader The Sequel

Ahh.... thank you, Blondie. That makes sense even though I think it is totally wrong. Probably a better question is why the average rank and file does not question why the "org" does not voluntarily provide this information to its members, the ones who float the entire boat?

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How does WTBT$ get away with not filing a public financial statement?

by Darth Fader The Sequel in

i have often wondered how the wt gets away with this.

every other "non-profit" or charitable group i know of that takes in donations, has a board, etc must publicly show how they spent their money, how many donations have been given, their assets, etc.

even the individual congregations read the accounts each month and post them on the bulletin board.

Darth Fader The Sequel

I have often wondered how the WT gets away with this. Every other "non-profit" or charitable group I know of that takes in donations, has a board, etc must publicly show how they spent their money, how many donations have been given, their assets, etc.

Even the individual congregations read the accounts each month and post them on the bulletin board. Why doesn't the mother ship have to do this?

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If you had the audience of the GB, what is your #1 question you would ask them?

by Darth Fader The Sequel in

there are a million of them and mine is by no means the most important question to ask them if i only had one shot at it.

but, i have always wondered what kind of bs excuse they would give as an answer to this question: "brother goober bum, given that there are both male and female partakers here on earth who claim to be of the 'anointed' and plan on being of the 144,000 ruling with christ in heaven for eternity........ why are the female 'anointed' treated as submissive, second class citizens and why is their opinion on doctrinal matters, matters of teaching and reproving, anything at all.... why are they not recognized while here on earth even though you claim that jesus has selected them to become angels to rule with him?

".

Darth Fader The Sequel

RichardHaley- that is sorta like the old question: "When did you stop beating your wife?" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

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Convention Hotel "list"- Free rooms for JW/WT "dignitaries"?

by Darth Fader The Sequel in

in all my years of being a jw, one of the more annoying aspects to me was each year sitting through the service meeting review part about what was expected (see: demanded) behavior and policies that the rest of us rank and file were ordered to comply with to attend a district convention.

the minutia in this part and the over-reaching set of rules were enough to drive me into a lather of rage at the audacity of these people thinking they could and should control every single aspect of my attendance to this "free" and voluntary convention.

from what clothing i can wear on my trip to and from the convention city, to what clothing i can wear before and after each day of the convention, to what i should be doing after each day instead of eating dinner and enjoying some good times with good friends, to insisting on wearing a ridiculous name badge, to what i should eat for lunch and where i should eat lunch and what is the appropriate container to keep my lunch in, to .................. the list is endless!!!!!!!!

Darth Fader The Sequel

RichardHaley- what pisses me off is that if the WTBT$ simply explained the system and said that it was a means of them covering other costs associated with the convention, most everyone would understand. But that it is covered up and secret is what looks bad and leads to more distrust and suspicion. Stupid.

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Fading, Stopping Meetings, DA or DF'ing, Thoughts on Getting the Hell Out Of There

by OnTheWayOut in

so i read some threads about why someone remains a ministerial servant or elder, or why they are still active jw's.

others are telling stories about how they cut back slowly, and some of them got removed as ms/elder/pioneer or whatever.

yet others tell of how they just up and stopped going one day.

Darth Fader The Sequel

My plan- 1) Continue my fade (I am almost off the radar now). 2) Get my wife closer to fading, gently. 3) Move to another state (already in the works). 4) Never look back. 5) Be a great and successful family that is happy and has morals and does charitable things and enjoy life for as long as it lasts. 6) Oh, and try not to be as bitter as I tend to get now in my situation. 7) Hope that some of our friends and family continue to love us for who we are, not how many hours we fill in on a time card or how many meetings we drudge through or worry that we do not worship the GB.